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  Jeannie John January 17, 2014 at 12:53pm

  Greg you are right.  I don't put my merchandise out till the morning of the show guess I wasn't thinking.  Sorry.
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  Patti Leota Genack January 17, 2014 at 12:46pm

  Has everyone here that knows of show that is letting in Buy/Sell putting that in a review of the show? At least then we would all know. Also, what media is buy/sell is, a description would be helpful for both the promoters and the rest of us. Sadly I think that many jurors are uneducated on what is out there and what is being offered for resale or in franchises. It is the promoter's job to know this and screen out inappropriate work. I'm a glass beadmaker and I can tell if a vendor/artist is reselling work from Italy or China, but I don't think most people can tell the difference. It does affect my sales if that work is being sold at a show. I can't match those price points as my materials are more expensive. I'm not sure at times though if I'm earning much more that sweat shop wages. I also appreciate shows where they say something in the piece must be handmade by the artist to weed out the people who are just stringing up purchased beads. Since in a past life I was a printmaker I'm always happy to see a show prospectus that understands what a hand pulled print is and what are reproductions.
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  Greg Little January 17, 2014 at 11:45am

  Jeannie...I don't think that the promoters going around the day before a show to examine booths would work because many artists just set up their tent and displays prior to the show and wait until the morning of the show to put out their merchandise.
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  Jeannie John January 17, 2014 at 9:40am

  Most of the shows you set up the day before the show.  Why can't the promoters just go around and review the booths, like they say they are going to, and get this dirty work out of the way before the shows even start.  If the items are buy/sell remove them or remove the whole booth then if it is all buy/sell.That way there is no commotion at the show and we can just go on and have a good day.  I pay attention to the contracts.  I would be totally humiliated if I was asked to leave a show! I was at a show and people complained to the promoters that a booth there wasn't making their own jewelry.  She had them make a necklace for her then and there so she knew she was making it.  She might just be stringing but she did do it. The yard metal people are at all the shows around here and I know it is a franchise.  The lady even told me.  She just sells it like it is a Pampered Chef party and gets her percentage and the company gets the rest.  You would think the promoters would catch on to this.  Everything is identical and the only thing that changes is the person selling it.  One show I do has you submit photo's of you making your items.  I thought that was crazy at first but I kinda agree with it now. 
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  Suzanne Ens January 17, 2014 at 9:21am

  I keep hearing how promoters are worried about lawsuits from these scumbags and am so tired of that excuse as a reason to not throw them out in the face of overwhelming evidence. The lawsuit threat is an urban myth. Do they know how hard it is to bring that sort of claim, and how expensive it would be for the claimant?! Good luck finding an attorney who would take such a sad case, and good luck paying him or her for less than $150/hr. Sure they can hope to recover atty fees if they prevail, but they won't because they cannot prove losses. And small claims courts, where one can bring the claim themselves, have exorbitant filing fees and usually limits of $5k for damages, just to discourage clogging the court with frivolous and vindictive crappola. So it's just a lame excuse to avoid the confrontation of booting a bs vendor I believe.
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  Mark V. Turner January 16, 2014 at 11:40pm

  Yeah! All for this. However I have never ever seen someone removed for buy/sell violations. I have seen buy/sell African woven baskets from Ghana receive a ribbon at a juried event.....
  
  I think promoters err on the side of buy/sell for fear of getting it wrong. But, if you have liability insurance, and you toss out the baby accidentally with the buy/sell you refund their booth fee and cut them a check for a couple grand in order to have them sign away their claim against you. Buy/sellers will think twice when they hear about buy/sell enforcement. Events are l
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  Robert Wallis January 16, 2014 at 11:32pm

  Here is part of the Columbus Art Fair prospectus thaat addresses some of these issues. Some shows do enforce the rules and will eject fraudulent B/S on the spot. I don't see what the issue is about not following through.

  The Columbus Arts Festival will inspect booths onsite to ensure adherence to rules and standards. Individuals selling work that is not their own, or otherwise misrepresenting their product or themselves are not welcome and are requested to refrain from applying.
  Exhibitors found not to be in compliance at the very least will be asked to remove the unacceptable items, and risk forfeiture of all rights as an exhibitor. This includes closure of their booth for the rest of the festival with no refund of fees. The Columbus Arts Festival reserves the right to remove artists who are not in compliance with the rules and regulations set forth in this application and on the artist’s contract. 
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  Mark V. Turner January 16, 2014 at 9:50pm

  Couple issues. Mark Loeb: As a promoter, if you encounter buy/sell setting up, and you are serious about buy/sell not being in your show.... What's to keep you from engaging an off-duty officer or private security to be your enforcer when you encounter buy/sell and want them the hell off your event property? You already know that the police won't enforce your civil contract, but seems to me that your private security can assist miscreant 'vendors' in packing their trash and leaving the property. Perhaps you add a provision that any person who brings buy/sell to a show can either remove it or consider themselves persona non grata and be deemed as trespassing somehow. Trespassing is something the cops will enforce. If you catch them before the show opens, technically, it's not yet a public event. If you can control a gate before opening, denying public entry, what's to say you cannot declare a discovered buy/sell person as a trespasser by virtue of their contract breach before the gates open. Is the event considered private property leased by the promoter prior to opening seeing as the public isn't allowed in? What's the law concerning designation of a buy/sell ven*duh as a trespasser because they are in breach of contract. ? Might be an option to get them off the property.
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  deborah potash brodie January 16, 2014 at 7:55pm

  all ok jeannie
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  Jeannie John January 16, 2014 at 7:51pm

  I wasn't trying to demean anyway by calling you a vendor Deborah but that is what the applications call us so that is what I used here.