Thursday, September 27, 6 pm ET8869090082?profile=original
Who gets into almost all of the top shows and win Best of Show? Meet Jody dePew McLeane (pastel drawings) and Ted Gall (sculptor), involved in the art fair business for over 30 years and consistently exhibiting at the "dream shows."

The essence of this show will be:

  • how to build a long term career selling at art fairs
  • sustaining a body of work that continues to grow and yield creative fulfillment
  • adapting to changing economic conditions
  • art fair vs gallery sales
  • lessons learned
  • tips for someone starting out today

Jody is a member of the Pastel Society of America in New York and was elected as a master panelist by the Society. Her works have been featured in four books including "The Best of Pastel II" and her work is in many public collections.

Ted has served consultant to the Art Institute of Chicago and the Illinois Arts Council. He has taught art classes in Illinois and in California. His corporate collections include The Barber Vintage Motorsports Museum, Walt Disney, Bell & Howell, Standard Oil and others.

Do you have a question you would like to ask them? Please post that below. Also, we'll be taking phone calls and you can call in at this #(805) 243-1338.

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  • Belleville can be the poster child of a show in a not very well to do community, yet it has mastered the buy in of the local area. They are proud of the show. What we need is more people like Patty Gregory and her friends with all their connections who make this event such a fine example of how to position an art fair that is a win for everyone involved.

    Here's a little of that story. Patty is a retired teacher from the Belleville schools. She knows everyone, she was their teacher. She gathered her friends and they started calling in these primary relationships to get the banks and other local businesses to be sponsors with the clear goal not to bring in bodies, but to build a cultural event of which the community could be proud, which does not necessarily mean turkey legs and multiple stages. They wanted something that couldn't be found elsewhere. She had a great vision for economic development and was able to implement it.

    It does have a lot to do with vision, you are right. Is that vision to find the right people who will attend and buy art, or is that vision to bring as many people as possible to attend who will then buy the beverages and food that support the festival? Or is it to bring hordes of people in to shop in the stores and eat in the restaurants? Is it for pride that they can say we had XXX number of people attend? which then we hope will trickle down for further economic development? These scenarios are not mutually exclusive.

  • Absolutely, the shows that have strong community support are usually the best.  But the community support has to be focused on bringing in art buyers.  An event might show a lot of community support by bringing half a million people to their event.  But what are all those people there for?  A lot of those people might be there for the music (musicians PAID to entertain I might add).  A lot might just like to come down to have a beer and a turkey leg and enjoy the party atmosphere.  And of course they are also there to LOOK at the art, to be entertained by the art zoo, and often complain amongst themselves how "expensive" it all is.  

    So in order for all this community support to work for us hard working artists, a lot of those people need to be there to purchase art.  A good example of a show that has it's priorities straight is Belleville, Illinois.  This is a small, pretty average, mid america town that has a tireless, super motivated show director that has somehow got the whole place believing that if they bring in a bunch of good artists and bring in lots of buyers for those artists, that Belleville will be a better place for it.  Their art dollars program epitomizes this effort.

    If they can do it in Belleville, why can't they do it in Columbus, or Minneaplolis, Louisville, etc., etc.?  The simple answer is that in those places, art sales are way down list of priorities.

    So in my opinion, it starts with shows guiding mandate.  After that, it comes down to their competence to execute.  

     

  • My hope, Will, with this podcast was to put to rest the idea that everyone is struggling week to week trying to earn their living at the shows. Many are, but not all, so I wanted to present the successful ones to balance out some of the lessened expectations of recent years. They are fortunate (if working 40+ years at something counts for nothing) to have attained the level of being able to pretty much pick and choose their shows and, of course, those shows are the ones where people really show up to buy art, as opposed to so many shows where success is measured in how many people attend.

    What are you thinking of, that shows should hire professional marketers? The best shows are ones where the community supports the event and is proud that the show is in their city. Shows that have developed a cache as the place to be and the place to buy art. What shows do you know of that do have this emphasis? Can you think of some ways that we, as artists, can help a show?

  • I enjoyed listening to these two veteran art show artists.  But I wish they had been asked to comment on the overall health of art fairs these days.  While those two have somehow managed to exist in the rarified air of practically  being able to pick and choose which of the top ten shows they wish to be in year after year, and so may not be as aware of the more pedestrian world most of us are struggling in, I would have liked to hear their perspective on how they see art shows today. 

    They brought up the recession and how they know good artists who have to quit.  But I believe the recession is only exacerbating the underlying problems:  generally speaking, that shows are not focused sufficiently on creating a marketplace for selling high quality art.  I wonder if shows were to enlist professional help in more direct marketing to potential art buyers, rather than the more general "bring in the bodies" approach they seem to favor, if that would make a difference.

  • This looks really valuable.  Can someone provide the actual link to access the podcast?  Will it be recorded if we can't listen in at that time, and how would we access the recording?  Thanks! Nan

  • At 6 pm ET on Thursday...

    These two artists have done it all and persevered through many recessions. They have a lot of wisdom to share that should be helpful.

  • Awesome! When will be able to listen or log in?

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