Is there a level playing field with Zapplication?

I like Zapp. It has become easy to enter shows. No going out and making expensive slides, no SASE for a lot of shows with potential to miss the mailing deadline. Just click, click, click click and you're done.

What I don't like is the same thing many artists talk about. "I can't get into the shows I have been doing for a long time." Let's look at some reasons this may be happening. There are now more applicants than ever. Digital images can be professionally created by anyone to show a beautiful image. The problem is are some people applying on Zapp who do not do their own work?

If you are a promoter who has integrity and a mission statement that focuses on true original art, it would be interesting to hear how you decide from Zapp if the artists are authentic or buy/sell enterpreneurs. Many of us who make a living from creating art from raw materials find it appalling when we find individuals selling 'art' that we know they did not make. It's the same old story: how did they get into the show? What screening does the promoter do? Is it our job to critique the show for the promoter?

If anyone has information on this topic it would be helpful to know!
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  • We're trying to make a living...yes! sometimes it feels as if those who take our hard earned money for fees, rental space, appropriate tents, etc. think we have unlimited resources! as if we were hobbyists working a second job with money to dish out for their whims! Things are really changing and artists having forums like this to publicly discuss their concerns and aspirations is what's making a difference. We just want to work in ethical business like environments with the rules clearly defined, no inconsistencies from written to the real practices.
  • I don't have time to read all of the posts so I apologize if this is redundant. Isn't it odd that at least 2 of the top fine craft shows do not ask for a booth slide and yet put on arguably some of the most beautiful shows out there? (I'm talking Smithsonian Craft Show and Philly)
    It seems that there is more confusion than ever about what a show wants in a booth slide i.e. do you have a white tent? a professional looking display? a comprehensive body of work? something that won't kill your neighbor in a storm?........ It's incumbent upon the shows to be ever more detailed in the applications, NOT to determine the rules once you are at the show, and NOT after they have cashed your jury fee. If they want to know what the booth looks like at a show, then don't tell me to set it up with artificial lighting in a studio. I don't even think you should have to show up with the booth depicted in the slide. As long as the work is consistent with what you submitted and the work is yours and it fits with the goals of the show. We're applying for shows that are 6-9 months away, could we please progress and not remain static??? I think I have a strong body of NEW, 2 D work. I just don't care to spend more money on a new booth right now unless I know I'm in a show. So it will be a while more before I can apply. We're trying to make a living and.......... really, isn't it about the work?
  • I don't see how the playing field is unlevel...

    I'm sure that there is no one keeping you from learning photoshop for yourself, and if your local stores don't carry the software you can order it online.

    Playing field leveled.
  • Ok Carla,
    So if I was mixed media 3D or if I was a metal artist that would make any diff on where I was coming from on this thread regarding Zapp and what has turned into a discussion of altered and manipulated or "shopped" booth shots? Maybe, but for me, nope. So yes, maybe you are reading my posts wrong, and if sharing thoughts comes across as argumentative, then sure, apology accepted.

    I dunno Willie, I can embrace digital technology and choose not to embrace altered , manipulated, "shopped" booth shots.
    But it would be nice to level the playing field, or at least make it that simple for everyone so I don't have to set up a booth in November, I can just have it "shopped" and embrace technology, and lets hear from the shows if they are openly allowing blatent manipulation or just secretly turning a blind eye to this matter as they only look at the booth shots for 5 secs anyway, right Cherry Creek, Sausalito? I venture to think this matter ultimately affects every artist that juries on Zapp in some way, big or small.
    These shows may state they don't allow it, but are they even catching it, if so, how? It would seem to me that software would be the only way to do this, the kinds that all news media should be using to detect "shopped" images by looking for inconsistencies in pixels.
    Btw, slides, digital, same thing. You can have slides made from digital files very easily nowadays.
  • for Peg:
    I am now understanding to be careful about the shows I apply to as they don't really have that many true vacancies. I won't waste my money by applying to a lot of shows in the hope that I get into one of them.

    In the Art Fair Sourcebook it offers info on how many booths are "pre-filled." I also think it would be nice if ZAPP had shows fill that info into their prospectus. This is something NAIA could work on as well as having each show clearly spell out what they want in their booth shot. Tho' I'd prefer NAIA tell the shows what to expect in their booth shot.

    I don't again don't think you can generalize this to all big shows. It depends on the show. I would call or email a show to see how many booths are filled before jurying.

    For instance: our show, Art in the High Desert, has booths "saved" for jurors who are artists, (2 last year) and board members who are artists, (2 last year), plus award winners from the previous show....(5 max) So out of 110 booths this year, we had 7 pre-filled, assigned, given to people who did not have to jury in. (However you want to categorize it.) That is listed in our AFSB listing. Another highly competitve show, Art in the Pearl, Portland OR which is apx 125-130 booths (I'm guessing here) has apx 15(?) booths that are filled by board members, award winners (3 each year), and/or jurors.

    My point, check with a show to see how many booths are filled b4 you decide to or to not jury for it.

    hth
    Carla
  • The Larry Berman I know has been a generous fountain of information! Many thanks!
  • you are making a mountain out of a molehill for some kind of personal reasons/grudge it appears to me. if you are not changing the work to make it look different than how it actually looks in person then you are not being dishonest. go ahead and embrace technology. don't be afraid. there is nothing evil about digital as opposed to slides. nothing more evil about a mouse than a crayon. its your intent that matters.
  • Holly:
    * giggling like a school girl...... I feel like Deborah Gilbert on STEROIDS.
    Now I'm giggling.
    8-)
  • For Tom:
    Uh, Carla, why does my medium matter on this thread, and btw who are you to decide what info I decide to share on the internet, on a forum, especially in that tone of response? Seems you don't handle differing viewpoints well.

    Info about you helps me understand where you are coming from. And you can post whatever info you want or don't want. I just don't usually answer questions to people, when I don't understand where they are coming from or who they are. And a few of your questions seem argumentative which I find often comes when people are posting anonymously. So I personally, try not to engage with anon posters. 2 different sides of the same coin.

    Perhaps I am reading your posts wrong. If so, my apologies.

    Carla
  • at Alice- is there anywhere in my post that I said this is perfectly acceptable? Actually, I find it as appalling as you-I'm just saying this kind of thing is not being scrutinized like it should, especially with shows that draw thousands of apps and have very short jury time per artist(I think it was one of Larry's posts that discussed actual second breakdown per artist at big shows)
    I think it's the responsibility of the artist to take the time to come up with a legitimate new booth shot each year, new work or not, especially if they are going to fork out hundreds of dollars in jury fees yearly- just seems common sense to me... and is the responsibility of the promoter to clarify how much, if any manipulation they allow in booth shot images, pretty cut and dry to me.
    At Carla,
    Carla, you have my real name, sorry, it's not more complex than, Tom, so go thru all the show artist lists and look for any Tom you can, btw, I've been off for a couple years, looking to return, so you'll have to go back to 2007 or so. And, Carla, I speak from experience, not broad generalizations, prob have more top notch shows under my belt than you, but, who cares, that's not the point.
    Uh, Carla, why does my medium matter on this thread, and btw who are you to decide what info I decide to share on the internet, on a forum, especially in that tone of response? Seems you don't handle differing viewpoints well.

    At Leslie, that's completely different than what is being discussed here- all the hupla is over digitally manipulating the image by placing artwork there electronically that wasn't there in the original booth shot. Larry lays it out very well on his website on how he does it- before and after images and all.
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