Tent Issues in Bad Weather

We took the opportunity of a storm with some wind moving through to test drive our King Canopy Goliath in bad weather. If we were going to have problems, we wanted to know about any problems before there was art hanging inside.

The frame is heavy duty and I had it anchored pretty well for being in the grass where I could use tent stakes and the tie downs that attach to auger-like stakes, ( I do no know what the call then but they twist in to the ground). I had two stakes plus the tie down on each corner. The frame has gone through the storm without issue, meaning it has not moved. I am in the process of making the PVC wights for concrete surfaces, kettle weights were too expensive. 

The canopy cover is a problem. We found out one of the side walls was missing a zipper slide, so we could not zip it up completely. The velcro pieces that attach to the corner post  are so short that they will not stay attached when the wind starts blowing. We found a small tear on a seam. All of the seams seep (slow leaks). Finally one corner of the top of the tent started pooling water which had to be pushed out every so often. This happened on the corner that was missing the zipper slide.

So help us end the debate. Sherry wants to get the tent repair seam sealer and replace the zipper slide on what we have. I am OK with replacing the zipper slide on the sidewalls, but I want to replace the top with something more heavy duty.

What say you in AFI cyber space?

Thanks again for all your help for us poor struggling newbies. 

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  • Discarded used lead wheel weights add more weight than concrete. Years ago I bought a few hundred pounds of them fro a local salvage yard and filled the usual PVC with them. I attached the big eye bolt to the end and also attach a handle to each one on the side half-way from each end. Easier to carry and an alternative place to strap to.
  • Along with the weights issue, I do use the pipes filled with concrete, but another one I use frequently, and particular with rough slopes are concrete blocks with an 8x16x2 board liquid nailed to the top of the block. The ones I picked out are the ones that are smooth on the ends instead of having a web opened at the end of them.

    My Propanels don't have the newer adjustable legs that give you another foot or so height, so I used a 2x8x10' board painted white to bridge the blocks, and everything is secured with lag screws. The board is attached to the blocks with a longer screw and the tent legs are attached with 1 1/4 inch screws. I was only about 50 feet from where the artist at Cherokee Triangle had his EZ-Up get demolished in high winds and a thunderstorm. He had a great write up on it back last May on here. I had no problems with the winds.

    If someone realy wanted more weight it would be easy enough to fill in the block with concrete and boost it up to about 60 pounds. If I did that, I would be inclined to get a nice sturdy metal handle and drill holes into the end of the block and bolt the handle in place before pouring the concrete. A handle would make it much easier to pick up and move around.

  • I have the Goliath and so far so good with it. One thing I will say is that if you can't stake it, you definately need weights. I spent last Monday filling the weight bags that go with it and let me tell ya, I am glad that's over!! I felt like I had been sentenced to hard labor!!!!! I used 350 pounds of sand. I think I will end up taking 3 sets of the weights with me and see how that goes for wind.
    • 50 to 80 lbs per leg is pretty standard. I use eighty, but I do a lot of shows in parks, on the bays  and beaches here....can get 60 mph gusts on perfectly sunny days. And if I can't stake, I add more weights. I carry construction cinder blocks, and run the stabilizer bars through the hole in them to add additional weight. and disguise those with my displays..I tend to set up in a u configuration- open front, tables and grid walls along the sides and back wall. This allows me to disguise my weights. Here, I like to both stake and weight, as our coastal surprise squalls can sneak up on us. It's pretty scary to see your business and lifes work lift off!! I learned the hard way....mild damage to the tent, which was repairable. Now, I always weight and stake if possible!!

      Hope the season treats you all well!!

      And GET INSURANCE...most shows require it, and if anything ever should happen, you are covered!! 

    • we just finished making eight concrete filled PVC weights (two for each leg). They weigh between 32 and 34 pounds each. We used two bags of  concrete and mixed with Portland cement.

      Materials list

      2 10' pieces of 4" thin wall PVC (cut into 4 equal pieces, about 30 inches each)

      16 4" thin wall PVC caps

      8 large eye hooks (the biggest and longest they had in our local hardware store). I want to say each one was eight to ten inches long and had 1/2 inch threaded nut.

      8 1/2 inch flat washers

      8 5/8 inch flat washers

      PVC cement

      Concrete listed above

      This will give us about 65 pounds on each leg. I hope that is enough.

      • I would also suggest using the two sided Velcro to strap the weights to the legs along with the tie straps from the top.  This way they don't swing around.

        • Good advise, swinging weights can cause injury and damage!!

        • Thanks Chris, great suggestion

          • You're welcome!  When not in use leave the two sided Velcro wrapped around the weights.  That way you don't have to go looking for them when you are setting up.  I use the Velcro strapping to hold a lot of things in my booth from moving!.

  • Hey John I have a question about your King Canopy. I am in the mist of shopping for my tent. The King Goliath says it comes with 500 Denier top and side walls that is coated with PCV to make it water proof. (on www.hutshop.com)  Is that what you got with your tent and which site did you get it from?

    I appreciate any information given. 

    Thank you 

    AmyRenee

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