Hello all! I've been recently working on a website for an artfair that uses ZAPP standards for accepting images. I got a lot of calls from artists asking for my help resizing images to the proper specs (1920x1920 with black borders if needed) and decided I could save a lot of time by creating an online tool for folks to use in a pinch.
You can find it at www.RipFish.com/zapp
Now that their deadline for accepting applications is over, I thought the art fair community might get a little use out of it. It's completely free, and pretty easy to use. If you have any suggestions on how to improve it, I'd be glad to hear them!
I hope this helps somebody out there!
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Thanks, Larry - I just used your online re-sizer for my booth shot. The ripfish application did not work at all with my computer. Thank you for this service.
Thanks for offering to send my images; but I actually have new ones since then: I changed the work in my wall frames last fall. I used your color corrected, full memory ones as a base for that. I still have all of the ones you sent. It’s good of you to keep backups.
I will use your system on the webpage for formatting, though. I appreciate the help.
Larry Berman said:
I've never taken the free code off my web site so you can use that. http://juryimages.com and put in xyz for the coupon code.
In answer to your question about getting full size images from ZAPP. Yes, but they make you jump through hoops. You have to fax a copy of your drivers license and pay something like $25 and they'll mail you the full size images on CD.
I worked on your images last year and can provide you with the ZAPP formatted images if you need them. I archive everything, keeping backups for artists who may need them in the future.
I've never taken the free code off my web site so you can use that. http://juryimages.com and put in xyz for the coupon code.
In answer to your question about getting full size images from ZAPP. Yes, but they make you jump through hoops. You have to fax a copy of your drivers license and pay something like $25 and they'll mail you the full size images on CD.
I worked on your images last year and can provide you with the ZAPP formatted images if you need them. I archive everything, keeping backups for artists who may need them in the future.
I am temporarily without Photoshop Elements and need to process a couple of booth shots. It should be here in a few days but meanwhile I have a deadline looming.
My images had already been put into sRGB, color adjusted and everything (all those things were done before the new computer came), all it needs is sizing and the black bands. Oddly enough I had already uploaded a black band version to Zapp, but somehow did not save one to my computer, which I normally do. If there is a way to download full sized images from ZAPP, that would work too, because they are all right there.
This is for a show asking for ZAPP format, but the show itself is not ON ZAPP.
I bought a new computer last fall: when I attempted to load up my old PS Elements 3.0, something went wrong and every time I tried scroll or to navigate in the image, it got all these strange horizontal lines in it. I took it off the computer because it was useless. If the new version does the same thing I don’t know what I’ll do. I’m hoping it was just because Elements 3.0 was too old for the new computer.
You can't add (or assign) a profile. It needs to convert to that profile. Otherwise you have incorrect looking images that monitors are displaying accurately to the incorrect original. Non sRGB images need to have their colors changed by converting to sRGB in order to display accurately.
Good ideas too -- I'll change it so it adds a sRGB profile by default. Thanks so much for helping me make this the best free tool possible!
I may not worry so much about being able to process CMYK images, as very few folks will have applied a CMYK profile to digital photos (and if they did, they probably don't need my help resizing an image!) but if I get some extra time I may look into that further.
Larry Berman said:
I just tested it again and it's maintaining other profiles also which is not correct. Images with profiles other than sRGB need to be converted to sRGB to display accurately to jurors, including CMYK which it's currently not formatting at all.
I just tested it again and it's maintaining other profiles also which is not correct. Images with profiles other than sRGB need to be converted to sRGB to display accurately to jurors, including CMYK which it's currently not formatting at all.
Thanks for the great suggestion to improve the tool -- I've now tweaked the code so that sRGB profiles remain intact. I really appreciate the suggestion, Larry! The folks applying for the artfair I'm working with found this tool really helpful and got quite a bit of use out of it. I hope others can find it as useful.
Any other ways I can improve it?
Larry Berman said:
I tend to keep out of these discussions and let them run their course. But in the end, it's the artists who either benefit or get hurt by what's happening. After Barry's post I tested your processor and find that it strips out all color space information. That means all the images processed through it might look incorrect when juried. And they'll look even worse if the jurors are using MAC's, For jury images to look accurate, or at least match what the artist sees on their monitor, they need to be in the sRGB color space.
I actually created an automated comprehensive image converter (which I charge a small fee) to convert images to either or both ZAPP and Juried Art Services formats (there are two mainstream online jury systems with different image requirements) and have been posting free coupon codes for the past two months. Not a single artist has been interested except for those that tested it for me. http://JuryImages.com
After five years very few artists need their images processed to enter the system. Artists that need the automated conversion are at a severe disadvantage in the jury room because they don't have the skills to post process their images to correct color or contrast or to crop to optimize how much screen space the image takes up so are basically uploading poor looking images and having them formatted, not much different from the shows offering to scan slides and upload them without doing any color correction or cropping. Therefore I feel that everyone using an automated conversion needs to be offered a choice on having their images improved and formatted, not just formatted.
I tend to keep out of these discussions and let them run their course. But in the end, it's the artists who either benefit or get hurt by what's happening. After Barry's post I tested your processor and find that it strips out all color space information. That means all the images processed through it might look incorrect when juried. And they'll look even worse if the jurors are using MAC's, For jury images to look accurate, or at least match what the artist sees on their monitor, they need to be in the sRGB color space.
I actually created an automated comprehensive image converter (which I charge a small fee) to convert images to either or both ZAPP and Juried Art Services formats (there are two mainstream online jury systems with different image requirements) and have been posting free coupon codes for the past two months. Not a single artist has been interested except for those that tested it for me. http://JuryImages.com
After five years very few artists need their images processed to enter the system. Artists that need the automated conversion are at a severe disadvantage in the jury room because they don't have the skills to post process their images to correct color or contrast or to crop to optimize how much screen space the image takes up so are basically uploading poor looking images and having them formatted, not much different from the shows offering to scan slides and upload them without doing any color correction or cropping. Therefore I feel that everyone using an automated conversion needs to be offered a choice on having their images improved and formatted, not just formatted.
Barry,
I'll look into the technical aspects a bit more of how the programming I'm using converts color profiles, etc. That's a great point -- I'll do a bit of research and get back to you!
Barry Witt said:
A question that came up about your tool. Does it maintain the "color attributes" of the original image? Have you or others done a "side by side" comparison of the original image with the converted image to make sure that the colors, etc. are the same quality?
This is very important because these images will be by juries to select artists for their shows.
Most of the critical requirements for image prep are available on various websites include links at ZAPP.
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I will use your system on the webpage for formatting, though. I appreciate the help.
Larry Berman said:
http://juryimages.com and put in xyz for the coupon code.
In answer to your question about getting full size images from ZAPP. Yes, but they make you jump through hoops. You have to fax a copy of your drivers license and pay something like $25 and they'll mail you the full size images on CD.
I worked on your images last year and can provide you with the ZAPP formatted images if you need them. I archive everything, keeping backups for artists who may need them in the future.
Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100
I am temporarily without Photoshop Elements and need to process a couple of booth shots. It should be here in a few days but meanwhile I have a deadline looming.
My images had already been put into sRGB, color adjusted and everything (all those things were done before the new computer came), all it needs is sizing and the black bands. Oddly enough I had already uploaded a black band version to Zapp, but somehow did not save one to my computer, which I normally do. If there is a way to download full sized images from ZAPP, that would work too, because they are all right there.
This is for a show asking for ZAPP format, but the show itself is not ON ZAPP.
I bought a new computer last fall: when I attempted to load up my old PS Elements 3.0, something went wrong and every time I tried scroll or to navigate in the image, it got all these strange horizontal lines in it. I took it off the computer because it was useless. If the new version does the same thing I don’t know what I’ll do. I’m hoping it was just because Elements 3.0 was too old for the new computer.
Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100
I may not worry so much about being able to process CMYK images, as very few folks will have applied a CMYK profile to digital photos (and if they did, they probably don't need my help resizing an image!) but if I get some extra time I may look into that further.
Larry Berman said:
Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100
Any other ways I can improve it?
Larry Berman said:
I actually created an automated comprehensive image converter (which I charge a small fee) to convert images to either or both ZAPP and Juried Art Services formats (there are two mainstream online jury systems with different image requirements) and have been posting free coupon codes for the past two months. Not a single artist has been interested except for those that tested it for me.
http://JuryImages.com
After five years very few artists need their images processed to enter the system. Artists that need the automated conversion are at a severe disadvantage in the jury room because they don't have the skills to post process their images to correct color or contrast or to crop to optimize how much screen space the image takes up so are basically uploading poor looking images and having them formatted, not much different from the shows offering to scan slides and upload them without doing any color correction or cropping. Therefore I feel that everyone using an automated conversion needs to be offered a choice on having their images improved and formatted, not just formatted.
Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100
I'll look into the technical aspects a bit more of how the programming I'm using converts color profiles, etc. That's a great point -- I'll do a bit of research and get back to you!
Barry Witt said:
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