Driver's License Number on Zapplication

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Permalink Reply by Robin Chard on February 21, 2010 at 6:45pm

A Autumn show I had last year in the NC mountians I kept loosing my connection. I have used my settup for a year (wireless) and had to take and store 7 transactions. I haven't done this much and didn't take phone numbers. two came back. ouch! next time I will! And I didn't know about entering the number again. I wish I did.

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Permalink Reply by Jacqueline Webster on February 21, 2010 at 9:35pm

Hi, Paula

I sent the promoter an email and he responded almost immediately, which was very nice. He said that the DL number never leaves the Zapp system, not even as a printout. He responded in a an email, so I have it in writing. I have applied to the show and will have to show my DL at check-in if I'm chosen to exhibit. But they're apparently not comparing it to anything when that happens. I guess they want what they want. There are a couple of shows that I'm skipping because they want even more, but I'm pretty satisfied that my DL is relatively safe with this promoter.

Thanks for checking in!

Jackie

Purse Stuff - Paula said:

Jackie,
What did the promoter say about the DL requirement? Did you decide to apply for the show?

Purse Stuff - Paula

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Permalink Reply by Purse Stuff - Paula on February 21, 2010 at 10:38pm

Jackie - More???? What more could they possibly want?

Did they tell you what the purpose was? Why? Why they needed your DL?

I can't help but wonder what they would do if someone does not have a Driver's License :-)

Purse Stuff - Paula

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Permalink Reply by Marguerite McGrath on February 21, 2010 at 11:03pm

I would have to guess that if they weren't driving to the show, maybe they were using pack mules to bring their booth in and that would probably get them a pass, just for the novelty of it. :-)

Purse Stuff - Paula said:

Jackie - More???? What more could they possibly want?

Did they tell you what the purpose was? Why? Why they needed your DL?

I can't help but wonder what they would do if someone does not have a Driver's License :-)

Purse Stuff - Paula

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Permalink Reply by Purse Stuff - Paula on February 22, 2010 at 12:14am

Hi Marguerite,

I happen to have two friends that do not drive.
Both do shows.
One is an artist, the other is a candle marker.

One is driven by her husband, the other is driven by her neighbor. Guess they put the pack mules out to pasture.

Paula

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Permalink Reply by Jacqueline Webster on February 22, 2010 at 2:07pm

The DL is for proving you're a Colorado resident, but I can see if they aren't actually confirming it's your number or at least comparing to the Number you gave them at check-in it would be a pretty moot point. But like I said, they want what they want and based on the promoter's response I didn't feel like it was totally out of line.

There's a show in Estes Park (CO) that wants an affidavit of citizenship in order to participate in the festival. My guess is that it has something to do with a misinterpretation of Colorado HB 1023. It's a piece of state legislation that requires individuals to prove US citizenship or lawful presence in the US to be the beneficiaries of state or federal funds either directly or indirectly. Being employed by a local government agency that oversees federal training grants I'm very familiar with HB 1023, and the form not only requires you to disclose your DL number, but also requires your SSN. The agency that I work with also requires a photocopy of you DL and SS card. I have a HUGE problem going that far to get into a show. There are all kinds of data security issues, plus the issue of background checks for the arts organization staff and volunteers. And my personal feeling is that I don't really even want to inquire about the policy - I just feel that asking me for citizenship is a bit out of line.

Purse Stuff - Paula said:

Jackie - More???? What more could they possibly want?

Did they tell you what the purpose was? Why? Why they needed your DL?

I can't help but wonder what they would do if someone does not have a Driver's License :-)

Purse Stuff - Paula

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Permalink Reply by Barry Bernstein on February 22, 2010 at 7:32pm

I do security work on my friends computers all the time and am aware of what can happen to someone who gives out a couple of pieces of information. You should never give out your license plate #, your license #, credit card info, and especially your social security information unless you know it is extremely secure. Amazon.com and other online vendors have great encryption because the survival of their businesses rely on it. An art fair application? I'm not so sure. You should never fill out a job application and add this info. You only supply that info when you get the job. They do need your SS number for tax purposes.

One thing I do sometimes is that I reverse two numbers. For instance, if my ID is xxxx4512xxx, I would put xxxx4152xxx. Most of the time, the info isn't even necessary and isn't checked. It's just on the form. If you are in a situation where they actual verify your info, they probably are security conscience.

This discussion brings up something I have been wondering. How secure is Zapplication and JAS? It's a fair question, since they do have our personal information. I'm not saying those web sites have security holes that could be exploited, but, we should be able to ask how secure they actual are? On the most secure sites, what we type in gets encrypted in a 256 bit code that is hard to crack. In fact, on the most secure sites, there are 2 levels of encryption. Further, when you log on, there is a random 256 bit code that is generated that only exists for you when you log on, and then gets wiped when you log off. Each time you log on, you get a different code. This keeps hackers and key loggers from stealing your password and accessing your info. The most secure sites, also, change that code at a designated interval, say every 15 minutes. It's the reason why someone cannot log on to your online bank account. It isn't necessary to understand this. Just understand that when you type in your password, you see your password but the site sees a 256 encrypted code. Your IP address is assigned another one. And, those questions like, "Where were you born?" etc. creates another one. That is why they are there.

I, for one, would like to know how secure Zapp and JAS are.

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