I'm just wondering if it matters at all whether or not you submit your application the day they are available on Zapplication or if you submit it before the deadline.

I'm not entirely sure how the process works or if they are uniform across all zapplication events. I've never applied to one yet, in fact.

The second question I have is, can you be notified of acceptance before the deadline if you submit early, or does everyone know at the same time?

Thank you.

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  • I think that only the bigger more well known shows still sit in a room for a blind jury.  My experience is limited, but zapp and friends made remote jury far easier and cost effective for the smaller shows. 

  • If the jury is entirely online (not sitting together in a room) the jurors can sort the applications any way that they want to.  I have been on a remote jury for several shows.  We are given a window of time when our jury is open, and within that window we can go in and look at all the applications at our leisure.  The thing that I find interesting is if someone's work appears to have the potential for production or buy/sell I can do a little research before I give a score.  I have alerted the organizer more than once when an artist is showing work that I can find on an import site, or when the work doesn't match anything they are known for.  In the latter case I usually suggest that the organizer contact the artist to see why the bodies of work are different - there are definitely reasons that could happen that are not nefarious.

    • Sounds like something La Quinta does. The jurors jury from home and have a few days. They only jury categories they are familiar with, not jurying the entire show. A few years ago I interviewed an artist who was a La Quinta juror:
      http://bermangraphics.com/artshows/la-quinta-zapp-jury.htm

      Larry Berman

    • This is a very good point, Amy. I never thought about that, a situation where the juror had time to sort and examine an application. One of the things it does is take the "blind" out of the "blind jury," but then we are hijacking the thread here. Sorry, Bobby.

  • Hi Bobby. I've always been an advocate for applying as soon as you know you want to do the show. I've run some shows and I can tell you that we do not "arrange" the applications as they come in. The first one in usually was the first one the judges see when the jurying takes place. The thing that is good about that is that often the first one sits in front of the judges on the monitor or screens while the jury gets their instructions, so they see it longer. That can be good.

    The other sort of esoteric answer is that show directors LOVE to get early applications. It makes their job so much smoother to receive them all through the jury process instead of all on the last day. They can stay on top of any problems that might occur and get in touch with you if there is an error. It also causes them to love YOU because you are making their job easier, and they remember you. 

    None of this takes precedence over having a great presentation and great work, but in a competitive business I don't see any reason not to stack the deck in my favor as much as possible.

    • Both interesting points. I have never thought about establishing the base before me but it makes sense
    • With slides we always assumed they loaded the carousel trays in the order the envelopes came in because each envelope also had a check. So they probably did load the trays right away and cashed your jury fee check.

      Not to disagree with what Connie said, but I prefer to be about 10% in within my medium category if the show juries based on submission date. That way the jurors have seen enough images in the category to establish a baseline. First few in can be risky because they have nothing to base their score on.

      Larry Berman

      • Larry and I have always had different ideas on this topic. To counteract that "first" viewed and so we don't know what is coming, most shows do a run through of the entire category before the voting starts to give everyone a fair chance and to give the jurors an idea of the competition in the category.

  • Everyone is juried at the same time so everyone knows the results at the same time. Shows that let you know early is called jurying by check and the images aren't actually juried - first people to pay get in. That's not how any show worth doing does it.

    Applying early or late in the cycle. Depends on the show and how they choose the order within the medium category. Some do it by application submission date and time. Some do it alphabetically and some do it randomly. Shows will tell you if you communicate with them, or read the "jury details" on their page on the ZAPP web site for more information. Disclaimer, most shows ignore the "jury details" page.

    Larry Berman
    http://BermanGraphics.com
    412-401-8100

    • Thanks Larry.

      How prevalent is the "jurying by check"?

      I'd hate for that to count against me, but at the same time, I'm not quite ready to apply TODAY.

      Thank you again.

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